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Steve: And in 1981 you find yourself at Martin Gardner's house… Hofstadter: I think it was late 1980, you know. Steve: Late 1980, you were preparing to actually take over ...

史蒂夫：1981 年，你发现自己在 Martin Gardner 的家里...... Hofstadter：我想大概是 1980 年末，你知道的。 Steve：1980 年末，您正准备接管他的专栏，您能谈谈他在那里与您在一起的时光以及你...

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Steve: You wrote in that 1992 essay about Martin's passion for paradox, and you wrote, "I would say that more than anything this passion gave Martin his virtually unerring sense for what is i...

Steve：你在 1992 年的那篇文章中写到 Martin 对悖论的热情，你写道，“我想说，这种热情比什么都重要，让 Martin 对什么是重要的几乎无误的感觉。这种对悖论的吸引力如何影响他关于思考真正重要的事情的想法？ Hofstad...

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Steve: Tell me about this event and give me the history of this entire project. Bhattacharya: Well, I started the program 10 years ago at Sloan–Kettering Cancer Center in my laboratory with ...

史蒂夫：告诉我这个事件，并告诉我整个项目的历史。Bhattacharya：10年前，我在斯隆-凯特琳癌症中心的实验室里和三名学生一起开始了这个项目，我看到的是该领域各种少数族裔的代表性严重不足，主要是黑人、西班牙裔和美国原住民-纽约市的美国...

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Steve: And then there was a presidential bioethics commission. There was a report they issued in 2008, where they were leery of making any kind of changes like this. Robin: That's r...

史蒂夫：然后还有一个总统生物伦理委员会。他们在2008年发布了一份报告，对做出任何这样的改变持怀疑态度。罗宾：没错，但他们所做的是支持脑死亡的想法，他们称之为“死亡的神经标准”。他们说，如果脑干和额叶皮层不工作，这个人实际上已经死了。这对人...

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Steve: So Robin, there's this it's almost a game that—and I don't mean to trivialize it because it's the most serious thing there; [it's] life and death—but there is the this kind of a game t...

史蒂夫：所以，罗宾，这几乎是一场比赛，我不想轻视它，因为这是最严肃的事情；（这是）生与死——但有一种游戏，医学界被直接卷入了（关于）死亡时间和器官捐献的游戏。罗宾：对。我认为这更像是他们不得不做的一场小舞蹈。史蒂夫：对。事实上，你在文章中确...

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Steve: I was going to ask you, is this an overstatement, but my recollection is that before the iPod was Apple was kind of hurting, and if not for the iPod—maybe this is a ridiculous kind of ...

Steve：我想问你，这是不是夸大其词，但我记得在 iPod 出现之前，Apple 有点受伤，如果不是 iPod——也许这是一个荒谬的另类历史问题——但如果不是 iPod，苹果会消失吗？ Snell：如果没有 iPod，苹果现在将是一家非...

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Steve: So Jason, I just spotted you with a Kindle. Snell: Yes, yes. I have a Kindle, I've had a Kindle for a little more than a year now and I'm still using it, even though there's ...

Steve：所以 Jason，我刚刚发现你拿着 Kindle。 Snell：是的，是的。我有一台 Kindle，我已经拥有 Kindle 一年多了，我仍然在使用它，即使世界上有一台 iPad——这是真的。 Steve：那么，如果有什么不...

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Steve: And this is because of work done in thermodynamics. George: Exactly. Steve: This is Boltzmann you're talking about. George: Exactly. Steve: Dr. B...

史蒂夫：这是因为在热力学方面所做的工作。乔治：没错。史蒂夫：你说的是玻尔兹曼。乔治：没错。史蒂夫：玻尔兹曼博士乔治：给你。史蒂夫：玻尔兹曼博士。正确的拜托，我绝对应该更加尊重他，尊重他在熵和无序度方面的基本工作，这就是我们所认为的时间；从有...