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Douglas Starr: Lacassagne had this humane approach, a respectful approach. It never worked. So that’s when he decided to let the evidence tell the story, and he went back to the forensic evidenc...

Douglas Starr：Lacassagne 采取了这种人性化的方法，一种尊重的方法。它从来没有奏效。所以就在那时，他决定让证据来讲述故事，他回到法医证据，重新检查它，并出色地组织它。法医证据表明，这些罪行是有方法的，尽管瓦歇尔声称他发...

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Douglas Starr: In a blue pencil, he started circling similar descriptive pieces, and he came up with this description. And it went out, and time went by. And eventually, among his many, many ass...

道格拉斯·斯塔尔：他用一支蓝色铅笔开始画出类似的描述性作品，然后他想出了这个描述。它出去了，时间流逝了。最终，在他许许多多的袭击中，瓦切尔袭击了一名在一个名为 Ardeche 的地方收集栗子的妇女，她的丈夫就在附近。他来了，他铲倒了瓦切尔，...

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Douglas Starr: So a person would come in and they would take these 11 measurements, and thee Bertillon numbers would be put on a card which would follow this person for the rest of his life. Now ...

Douglas Starr：所以一个人进来，他们会测量这 11 次测量，然后你的 Bertillon 数字会被放在一张卡片上，这个卡片将伴随这个人的余生。现在有趣的是，这不仅是一个积极的 ID，而且通过使用电报，你可以以光速将某人的 Ber...

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Douglas Starr: Lacassagne wrote a manuscript on the case, and even looking at the line drawings was disgusting. The crime scenes were so horrific that sometimes they would traumatize the entire v...

道格拉斯·斯塔尔：拉卡萨涅写了一份关于这个案子的手稿，连看线条图都让人恶心。犯罪现场是如此可怕，有时它们会给整个村庄带来创伤。整个村子都会有创伤后应激障碍，有点发疯。这太可怕了。 Steven Berkowitz：这本书真正让我印象深刻的...

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Douglas Starr: The late 19th Century was a blossoming of all forms of science from anatomy to chemistry to bacteriology, and this started coming together in the minds of some scientists as a way o...

道格拉斯·斯塔尔：19 世纪后期是各种形式的科学的繁荣时期，从解剖学到化学再到细菌学，这开始在一些科学家的脑海中汇集起来，作为解决犯罪的一种方式。 Steve Mirsky：我是 Douglas Starr。他是一位资深的科学作家，也是波...

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John Rennie: I even had reasons to – and this is the tough part of the job – to be going to Vail, Colorado and Telluride around ski time – ski season because, in that case, we were looking at a...

John Rennie：我什至有理由——这是工作中最困难的部分——在滑雪季节去科罗拉多州的韦尔和特柳赖德，因为在那种情况下，我们正在研究我们都听说的另一种天气操纵，即云播种以及你是否真的可以按需创造降水的问题。实际上——这就是真正令人着迷的...

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John Rennie: So we have a much better understanding of things like hurricanes now than we ever used to, and in retrospect, it’s really clear that anything that could have been brought to bear o...

John Rennie：所以我们现在对飓风等事物的理解比以往任何时候都要好得多，回想起来，很明显，在 50 年代和 60 年代，任何可能对问题产生影响的东西，真的，我们不可能能够影响它。即使在今天，我们真的没有能够用它做任何事情的技术。非常...

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Steve Mirsky: So which volcano did you fly over? John Rennie: We – all of them. Steve Mirsky: All. John Rennie: I – the big island of Hawaii is not so gigantic in the big ...

Steve Mirsky：那么你飞越了哪座火山？ John Rennie：我们 – 他们所有人。 Steve Mirsky：全部。 John Rennie：我——夏威夷大岛在大岛上并不是那么大，但我在这次飞行中花了六个半小时以上，基本...